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NB: Discount realtors merge in move they say is a real estate game changer

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Published on July 7, 2011
Published on July 7, 2011
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Under the agreement, Toronto's Realtysellers Real Estate Inc. will take partial ownership of PropertyGuys.com Inc., based in Moncton

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PropertyGuys.com , Competition Bureau , Canadian Real Estate Association , New Brunswick , Canada , MONCTON

[MONCTON, NB] - Two of Canada's discount realtors are teaming up in a move they say will shake up the industry and bring lower prices to consumers.

Under the agreement, Toronto's Realtysellers Real Estate Inc. will take partial ownership of PropertyGuys.com Inc., based in Moncton, N.B..

Financial terms of the agreement were not disclosed.

They say the deal will allow the companies to offer the broadest range of service at reasonable prices.

“This is a real game changer for how the industry will operate from now on and a huge win for consumers,” said Lawrence Dale, president and CEO of Realtysellers, who will sit as a director on the New Brunswick company's board.

The move comes after Canada's Competition Bureau took on the Canadian Real Estate Association last year over rules that it said were anti-competitive and prevented consumer choice.

Dale, an industry agitator who brought the complaint to the competition watchdog, started Realtysellers following CREA's agreement to change its rules to allow a la carte services.

The changes allow a realtor to charge a flat fee for individual services such as posting a listing to CREA's Multiple Listing Service - which is used in about 90 per cent of Canadian real estate deals.

“The Competition Bureau's actions pave the way for PropertyGuys.com and Realtysellers to come together,” Dale said.

“This is the type of deal that consumers want and traditional agents fear.”

The Competition Bureau is now taking on the Toronto Real Estate Board for preventing the creation of password protected sites for clients. It says the board restricts how agents provide information to their customers through the local MLS.

There are some 90,000 realtors in Canada. Traditional realtors typically charge a five per cent commission on the sale of any house, regardless of the level of service they provide.

PropertyGuys.com is an online network that allows homeowners to sell their own homes. It has 106 local franchises across Canada. Realtysellers is a a group of realtors who offer customized services that allow sellers to choose their own level of assistance.

By partnering, they believe “the new partnership has the size, sophistication and financial muscle to fundamentally change how Canadians buy or sell a home.”

The companies will continue to operate under their own brands, but will pool their resources and services for customers.

“Together we can now satisfy the underserved consumer demand for innovation, change and lower fees. This new union will give our current and future customers access to brokerage services that were previously off limits,” said Ken LeBlanc, president and CEO of PropertyGuys.com.

Realtysellers will initially manage and provide the brokerage services for the posting program of PropertyGuys.com, with a plan to integrate into a platform for low cost brokerage and non-brokerage services.

 

 

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    Mike in Barrie ON
    - July 8, 2011 at 21:59:45

    Seeing as most of the home owners on here have it all figured out, here are a couple tips for the buyers out there looking at privately listed homes, (sellers who hope to soon change hats and be buyers will thank me too.) A high percentage of private sellers will have had their home evaluated by a professional Realtor but refuse to believe the market value assessment report. I witness this all the time.Those overly ambitious sellers almost always list private because few Realtors are going to pay hundreds of dollars, often much more, to advertise an overpriced home that will never sell. Buyers need to know what comparable homes have recently sold for in deciding if a private listing is priced fairly. Sold data information unfortunately is protected under federal privacy legislation in this Country now. A Realtor can't even put flyers around the neighbourhood where they just sold a home telling what they sold for anymore without the written consent of that seller. Unfortunately for you even our Competition Bureau seems to unaware of this piece legislation. Once you determine whether the price of a home is fair you must keep in mind also that those comparable sale prices have Real Estate fees built in to them unlike that private listing you have your eye on. At the end of the day does the savings belong to the buyer or the seller? I would say the buyer for at least two reasons. Without the involvement of professional Realtors your lawyer is going to have to pick up much of the slack and lawyers prefer not to work for free either. Second: Statistically, private sales end up in litigation many times more frequently than sales done under the scrutiny of trained professionals. That or any added risk has to come with a return for any smart negotiator. When in doubt, consult a professional.

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    Mike Kenny
    - July 8, 2011 at 13:33:54

    Alain, I'm 4 for 4 with PropertyGuys.com and I watch the market closely here in my local area. Property Guys has a strong presence here and from what I can see their success rate is right up there with the 'big boys'. Perhaps in markets where they have low market share or are new they may not have as good results. All 4 of mine were sold without MLS but were sold for MLS equivalent prices...my list price being determined by agents is indicative of that. My point is that just because you Property Guys is different from you that doesn't mean they are wrong. Focus on your enterprise and I'm sure you'll be successful as long as you do a valuable job. But if my area is any indication Property Guys is well on their way to being a major player in real estate.

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      Alain Savard
      - July 8, 2011 at 16:10:26

      Mike, I don't sell houses, I buy them. PropertyGuys only works for a small percentage of sellers. Guys like you who, I am sure, could have sold all 4 by yourself without them anyway. Most people will pay the flat fee and those among them that really need to sell will end up with the big guys 6 months later... that's all I am saying.

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    Mike Kenny
    - July 8, 2011 at 10:49:54

    Alain, I have to disagree with your comments. I've sold 4 houses thru Property Guys the old fashioned way. All 4 times I had 3 market analysis' done by agents and I averaged them to get my list price. 2 out of the 4 times I rec'd offers for full asking price. The LOWEST I made was 98.5% of asking AFTER I paid an agent 1% for introducing a buyer to our house. The Propertyguys.com website is top notch and the service I've received has been nothing short of spectacular. No hot air fed to me...just common sense, logical guidance. PLUS I paid the same to list all 4 houses even though they ranged in price from %145,000 and $299,000. So I ask you...where's the value in 5 or 6%??? Agents talk out both sides of their mouth. They tell buyers their services are free yet they tell sellers that their commission really comes out of the buyers pocket. Which is it? I'm sorry sir but I don't have any sympathy for the realtors who are going to feel this. Change has been long overdue in the realty industry and it looks like Property Guys are surging in front as the leaders!

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      Alain Savard
      - July 8, 2011 at 11:21:47

      Mike, your homes weren't even listed on MLS. You managed to sell privately with the help of Propertyguys. Glad it worked for you but your case is exceptional. Thousands of sellers having agreed to pay 5 or 6% to list on MLS the traditional way are currently unable to sell their home. Are you saying that they would have better luck with Propertyguys? They can't even get it done with the most effective real estate marketing system around, do you really think going private at the same price with Propertyguys will do the trick? You were priced right, your homes were unique and obviously didn't require a lot of marketing. I agree with you on the part of the fee paid to the agent on the seller's side of the deal, the lower the better, but in order to attract agents from other firms -- which is what MLS does -- going on the system with $1 (the minimum allowed) is a waste of time. All propertyguys offer are fancy private sales which will work for some (1 out of 10 is my guess) but for most it will turn into a waste of money. So again sellers beware.

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    Alain Savard
    - July 8, 2011 at 10:09:24

    MLS works because it pays big. Listing companies offer huge "finder's fees" (often 2.5%) to agents from all firms for bringing in buyers. Paying a discounter, say a flat $699 to be on MLS without the finder's fee will turn into a waste of $699 for the seller 9 times out of 10. But paying the same $699 plus the 2.5% or whatever "split" that gets agents excited in your local area is likely to work. Real estate agents are like bounty hunters. They collect fees for matching buyers with MLS houses. Remove the money and all you are left with is a private sale expensively advertised on MLS for nothing. Such discounters make their money by collecting those $699s. It doesn't matter to them whether your house sells or not. That's why they never talk about their success rate.. which is probably only slightly better than that of private sellers. So sellers beware.

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    Alain Savard
    - July 8, 2011 at 10:05:03

    MLS works because it pays big. Listing companies offer huge "finder's fees" (often 2.5%) to agents from all firms for bringing in buyers. Paying a discounter, say a flat $699 to be on MLS without the finder's fee will turn into a waste of $699 for the seller 9 times out of 10. But paying the same $699 plus the 2.5% or whatever "split" that gets agents excited in your local area is likely to work. Real estate agents are like bounty hunters. They collect fees for matching buyers with MLS houses. Remove the money and all you are left with is a private sale expensively advertised on MLS for nothing. Such discounters make their money by collecting those $699s. It doesn't matter to them whether your house sells or not. That's why they never talk about their success rate.. which is probably only slightly better than that of private sellers. So sellers beware.

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